technicalaudio.com/pdf/... DUPLEX.html - minor cleanups April 2010
THIS IS A LISTING OF ALTEC 604 DUPLEX SPEAKERS, SOME DERIVATIONS AND RELATED
compiled by john klett - I have some time into this so, please... ©2010
The emphasis of this list is on 604 and relatives as applied to control room and playback monitor systems. This is a work in progress... a spare time project. I'd like to tighten up dates to reflect actual years of production/availability and other details, and I am certain that there are other errors, omissions, and conflicting info so, if you have something to offer, you can contact me and set me straight.
Note: if you are looking for other Altec info and this page is not what you are looking for then try links here.
Thanks, and enjoy
John Klett
Model |
Year | Comments |
601 | 1943 | Altec's original proto-typical 15" Duplex Speaker with field coil magnet structures link: 1943 cat pages for 601
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602 | 1943 | Speaker System comprising 601 Duplex Speaker, dividing network and power supply for field coil in a "resonating baffle" or cabinet that is visually similar to and has same dimensions as the 612 utility cabinet
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604 | 1944 | Original Altec 604 (there was no 604"A")
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605 | 1946 | Speaker Cabinet: Floor standing furniture finished walnut enclosure - 38" high, 30" wide, 16" deep |
606 | 1946 | Speaker Cabinet: Wall mounting angled wedge typ for wall to ceiling corner, walnut - 34" wide, 24" deep |
612 | 1946 | Speaker Cabinet: Classic gray utility cabinet - 29-1/2" high, 25-1/2" wide, 17 3/4" deep |
614 | 1946 | Speaker Cabinet: Portable utility cabinet with handles - 24-3/4" high, 18-3/4" wide, 14-1/4" deep |
604B | 1949 | Altec 604B
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604C | 1954 - 1957 |
Altec 604C link: 1954 cat pages re 604C |
604D | 1957 |
Altec 604D
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605A | 1963 | Altec 605A link: 1963 cat pages re 605A |
604E | 1964 |
Altec 604E Super Duplex Speaker comment: LF motor moved to a full thickness top plate with a shorter voice coil for more linearity at low frequencies |
604-8F | probably fictional | 15" Duplex Speaker said to have been a nominal 8 ohm variant of an E that existed before the frame went to 16" with the introduction of the 604-8G but this is likely a phantom model - never seen one and don't know anyone who has. |
604-8G | 1973 to 1979 |
Altec 604-8G (first 604 with 16" diecast frame, retained 6 cell horn, went to 8 ohm voicecoils) link: 604-8G Duplex and an Iconic SuperCrossover is available for 604-8G |
3577A | 1974 | Stonehenge III Studio Monitor System, 604-8G in ported enclosure with crossover |
Audiomarketing |
1974 non-catalog |
The Audiomarketing Ltd. 604E2 was a special 16 ohm OEM version 604-8G... essentially a non-catalog 604-16G Note the 604E2 label is not an Altec label |
604-HPLN | 1974 | 604-HPLN The HPLN is another G variant that had 8 ohm LF and 16 ohm HF and was primarily intended for bi-amping - these were first to have the Tangerine phase plug which moved in to later version 604-8G with no change in model designation. lit: 604-HPLN |
Audiomarketing 604 based |
1975 or so... | Audiomarketing Ltd. (manufacturing for Audio Techniques) a 604-based speaker system called Big Reds. Big Reds are not to be confused with Tannoy Red's. Audiomarketing's Big Reds were based on a speaker and crossover combination developed in-house at The Mastering Lab, which was in Hollywood (since moved to Ojai California). The Mastering Lab developed (and still do) a lot of their own custom electronics and monitor systems. Among those was system based on 604E's and their own Mastering Labs crossover. The design was licensed to Audiomarketing Ltd., in Stamford, CT, a small audio manufacturer linked by common partners to Audio Techniques, a large pro-audio dealer in NYC (the MCI dealer in town among other things). The Mastering Labs Crossover is a 16 ohm Network designed originally for the 15" 604E. Altec was producing Duplex speakers with a new 16" cast aluminum frame that was better suited to front loading but the stock 604-8G was an 8 ohm speaker. It is said that Big Reds used 604-E speakers but in fact the 604 variant found in these cabinets is a 16" front loadable frame, Alnico magnet Duplex with a six cell horn. That would be a "G" Big Red's were very popular and still in use i.e. a pair hangs to this day in the control room of Studio A at Avatar Studios (formerly Power Station) For a short time Audiomarketing made a thing called a Super Red, probably to compete with the UREi 813 that came out a few years after Big Reds hit the market but people preferred 813's so very few Super Reds were produced and sold. If you have a pair of Big Reds and/or a Mastering Crossover - make sure your speakers have not been re-coned or re-diaphragmed with 8 ohm parts - this is very very common and your crossover will not work properly if this is the case... so send your speakers the GPA, have the magnets re-magnetized and 16 ohm parts installed to match to the crossover. pics front, back, Mastering Labs crossovers, 604E2 pair, 604E2 label |
UREi 813 |
1978 1981 1983 1986 |
Control Room Monitor Speaker System developed by Bill Putnam (UREi) with Time-Align crossover designed by Ed Long (CSI) starting in 1976... first official 813 as a product rolled out in 1978. The 813 had an additional 15" "helper" woofer - this was an Eminence part dubbed the 800W. The sectoral horn of the 604-8G was replaced by a blue one piece exponential horn. Other models in the series were the 811 which had a single 604 in a box with no additional woofer and the 815 which was a single 604 in a huge box with two additional woofers. The 3-way 838 Time-Align network for the 813 was designed around the 604-8G. Over the time period when the 813 was being developed Ed Long designed and UREi manufactured Time-Align (TA) networks for sale for both 604-8G and 604E Duplex Speakers. The original 813's used late 604-8G and 604-8H Duplex Speakers - replacing the different horns with their own. 811 - single woofer coaxial with Model 828 2-way TA network "A" series. When 604's went from Alnico to ferrite ceramic magnets the geometries changed so the Time-Align networks needed to change - other changes and improvements came in with the "A" series in 1981 - still 604 based but using an 8K - the blue horn was modified with a foam surround to reduce "shadow effect" - a BNC connector was added to the back of the cabinet to provide feedback to UREi 6500 series power amplifiers as a way to compensate for conductor loss. "B" series. Due to poor quality control and high rejection rates in the 604's that UREi was getting from Altec and the need for higher power handling and more SPL's UREI moved to a compound speaker that used a PAS coaxial woofer and a JBL compression driver. There was some additional tinkering with the horn. The 813B was probably the best of the series.The system was 3dB more efficient and could handle twice the power (150 Watts vs 75 as in previous versions) - a 6dB improvement in overall output level "C" series. When JBL bought UREi they went to all JBL drivers... they sounded nothing like previous models
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604-8H |
1979 or |
Altec 604-8H (last 604 with Alnico magnets and first with Mantaray horn) link: 604-8H Duplex - Iconic SuperCrossover available for 604-8H |
604-8K also |
1981 or 1982 to 1998 |
Altec 604-8K (first 604 with Ferrite Ceramic magnets) Note: 604-16x has 16 ohm voicecoils, 604-168x has 8 ohm LF and 16 ohm HF comment: more sensitive "SPL" ratings than previous model 604's - smoother HF dispersion due to the CD "Mantaray" horn and improved crossover networks. UREi adapted with introduction of 800"A" series (811A, 813A, 815A) Altec started marketing the 604K as a "ceiling speaker" and introduced various impedance combinations for OEM and direct bi-amping. New high power Duplex speakers were introduced. All these were discontinued with rest of Altec line in 1998. |
904-8A | 1984 to ? | High Power (150 Watt) version of 604 otherwise similar to 604-8K |
950-8A | 1993 to ? | High Power Duplex with 90x90 horn |
604-8L | 2002 - 2005 | New version listed in the early 2000's by Altec Lansing Pro. link: 604-8L |
Great Plains 604-8H-II 604-8H-III |
2005 - present | Great Plains 604-8H-II comment: Great Plains Audio services vintage 604's. Their standard service includes re-magnetizing the magnet structures... this is mandatory if you want your 604's to sound right. They have all the parts and original factory expertise. They also build and sell improved crossover networks for these speakers. link: 604-8H-II and 604-8H-III (III is new and has exponential horn) |
Iconic |
2005 - present | Iconic 704-8A links: Iconic 704-8A and Iconic Super Crossovers |
Some good Altec vintage (pre-1998) product resources on the web (Feb 2010)
Parts and Service - vintage Altec speakers Great Plains Audio 405-789-0221
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Parts and Service - vintage Altec electronics Iratec Pro Audio Repair 405-324-5311 |
Parts and Service - vintage Altec mics MicroMike Laboratories |
the NEW AND IMPROVED (unofficial) ALTEC LANSING Homepage
the Lansing Heritage website and the Altec Library on that site
Yet another Altec Page at Ominous-valve.com
Altec Thiele-Small Parameters on the Great Plains Audio site
have fun!